Why should this designation be such a discouraging barrier without the potential to produce short hair when breeding only long hair together?. In my opinion I would like to see the ELH seen as a Persian as an ELH carrier. Each breeder should be able to determine which trait in the Persian lines they choose to produce, even in the Persian breed there are traits that need to be chosen or excluded such as tabby, chincilla, smoke, CPC, solid, blue eyes, etc. What damage would it do for CFA to require that any of these could no longer be bred back to a Persian male?
Even if enough response here could be generated, this in itself could be presented to CFA. I hope that there will be tremendous support. Of course, it is well beyond me. Blessings, Rose
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From: r zozman <furtherinquiries@yahoo.com>
To: angela scott <adonispersians@att.net>
Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 11:09:27 AM
Subject: Re: [PER] throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from breeding to persian male inCFA
Dear Angela: I appreciate your comments this gathering information is to help the breed, not be about fighting or anything nasty, not like me at all. I did receive this comment:
Hi Rose,
I would really like to know who in their wisdom decided to call them Exotic Longhairs. It is the most uncreditable decision anyone could make. It is a Persian for heavens sake. No more no less. I cannot and will not understand why. Ridiculous.
Christine
Of course a CPC introduces other factors into the breed, however wouldn't the ELH bread back to the persian likely only produce the long hair??? Of course within the breed of Persians a person breeding tabby / smoke/ solid /CPC will choose within those lines to avoid cross factors. But it would seem that this is no different if the ELH continues to produce long hair (less of a cross factor). These are questions to answer, I have not bread ELH so do not know. Blessings, Rose
From: Merilyn Biddle <merilynbiddle@bigpond.com>
To: r zozman <furtherinquiries@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 2:19:51 AM
Subject: Re: [PER] throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from breeding to persian male inCFA
The percentage of short hairs from an ELH to a Persian is NIL, None, Never, Nought, Zero.
Genetically there is no difference between an ELH and a Persian. Short hair is dominant over long hair. Being a dominant gene it
cannot be carried. You need one parent at least to be a short hair to get a shorthair. Longhair on the other hand IS recessive and can be carried.
Two exotics carrying longhair can produce a longhair. Two longhairs from exotics can never have an exotic.
I did belong to a council in Australia that didn't recognise those matings. They were the only council that still had this ruling. I changed councils.
As I said there is no way you can prove that out of two Persians in front of you that one is an ELH or a Persian or indeed that neither is
an ELH. Genetically there is no difference.
I'm very happy to answer any more questions you may have
----- Original Message -----
>From: r zozman
>To: Merilyn Biddle
>Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [PER] throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from breeding to persian male inCFA
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>Might you know the percentage that kittens produced from a ELH back to a Persian have the Short hair??
>Would you have any comment or suggestions to support that the ELH should be considered?, Perhaps comparable to a Persian CPC carrier, the ELH could or should be a Persian that is a ELH carrier or a breed of its own but could be bred and sold rather than a "discard" in CFA rules. Thanks Rose
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From: Merilyn Biddle <merilynbiddle@bigpond.com>
>To: furtherinquiries <furtherinquiries@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 8:19:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [PER] throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from breeding to persian male inCFA
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>Eventually this cat will become a Persian and follow the rest of the world. In Australia after a long hard struggle the persian born from an exotic to a persian became a persian. Genetically that is all it can be as shorthair or exotic is not recessive. It's amazing now that exotics often have outstanding persian pedigrees to equal if not surpass quite a few persians with no exotic in them.
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>----- Original Message -----
>>From: furtherinquiries
>>To: Persian-Fanciers@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:43 AM
>>Subject: [PER] throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from breeding to persian male inCFA
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>>Is there interest in seeking to promote the Exotic Long Hair as a breed of its own, as it would seem that preventing this breed from being bread back to persian males (the CFA rule) would essentially cause this breed to be a "throw away" breed and I belief after all the efforts that have gone to produce such beautiful cats that this is truly unfortunate. I hope there will be interest in promoting this. Blessings Rose
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From: angela scott <adonispersians@att.net>
To: furtherinquiries <furtherinquiries@yahoo.com>; Persian-Fanciers <Persian-Fanciers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 8:26:49 AM
Subject: Re: [PER] throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from breeding to persian male inCFA
I don't want to start a fight...so please don't email me with nasties about this...BUT--exotic longhairs were suppose to be *not the standard* when the inventors of exotic short hair created the breed....I realize that the long hairs are lovely but if someone wants to breed long haired versions we have Persians.....and there isn't any derivatives(other breeds) in the pedigree like American short hair, British short hairs, and other breeds they used to get the shorthair gene...when someone starts asking to make a breed a "breed" and there is already a breed that "looks like" the ELH....I think the breeders of exotic shorthairs should include their what you call--throw aways-- into the breed itself...and not force Persians breeders to include it...and make Exotic shorthair a whole separate breed itself. This would allow a TOTAL separate number system in place and people who want to raise Persians will not make the same mistake I made when I wanted to
raise Persians and ended up with a CPC...and being un-mentored I ended up with a CPC who was lovely but wasn't what I wanted. Angela
Angela Scott--
Adonis Persians
-------Original Message-------
From: furtherinquiries
Date: 3/5/2010 9:54:17 PM
To: Persian-Fanciers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PER] throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from breeding to persian male inCFA
Is there interest in seeking to promote the Exotic Long Hair as a breed of its own, as it would seem that preventing this breed from being bread back to persian males (the CFA rule) would essentially cause this breed to be a "throw away" breed and I belief after all the efforts that have gone to produce such beautiful cats that this is truly unfortunate. I hope there will be interest in promoting this. Blessings Rose
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