My post wasnt meant to promote breeding ELH's and Persians together. Far
from it.
~~Arja
----- Original Message -----
From: "r zozman" <furtherinquiries@yahoo.com>
To: "featherland2000" <Lorraine@featherland.net>;
<Persian-Fanciers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [PER] Re: throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from
breeding to persi
> Thank you Arja for a helpful comment.This issue is to see that Exotic long
> hair will be recognized and allowed to be bred back to a persian male,
> this is presently banned by CFA. How would it be if every other unoriginal
> persian, (which is all persians, thanks for clarifying that) were not able
> to be bred back to a male persian, how would that affect the hard earned
> efforts to create the beautiful breeds with their various different
> distinctions, chincilla, smoke, tabby, CPC, ec... The point is not to say
> ELH is only Persian but Persian ELH Carrier (better put ESH Carrier) or
> if this is such a problem then alternately to find a class for them, but
> to continue not allowing them to be bred would seem sad. Particularly with
> the decline in the fancy.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: featherland2000 <Lorraine@featherland.net>
> To: Persian-Fanciers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 10:02:22 PM
> Subject: Fw: [PER] Re: throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from
> breeding to persi
>
>
> Arja,
> OK, I think was just a miscommunication.
>
> The original post was about recognizing one breed that mimics another but
> is shown as a separate breed. This does not exist in FIFe: the ELH *is* a
> Persian, it doesn't "mimic" one. They are not shown in separate
> categories.
>
> To all:
>
> When it comes to the whole CFA "what is a breed" question, the only
> request I make is that a CFA Allbreed judge should be able to tell what
> breed a Grand Champion is by handling it, not by having to look in a book
> or at a pedigree. I don't think that is too much to ask. If a breed is not
> distinct, it is not a breed. How can we get the public to appreciate our
> breeds as unique if even WE can't tell them apart?
>
> Registering and showing "Exotic Longhairs" in a category separate from
> Persians is not consistent with that request. I don't want to see a judge
> present their "Best Black Exotic Longhair" to an audience, followed by
> their "Best Black Persian" and then have a visiting member of the general
> public turn to me as a CFA Ambassador and comment, "I don't understand,
> they look identical to me!" That's simply an embarassment to our hobby.
>
> At least when they can't tell the difference between a Maine Coon and a
> Norwegian Forest Cat, I can explain the standards to them!
>
> Our bicolor Persians in CFA are all Exotic Longhairs, with their pedigrees
> conveniently truncated. Read Norah Woodifield's article that explains her
> ONE breeding program with ONE standard and TWO coat lengths here:
> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Persian-Fanciers/files/
> I love the part about how the conformation of the cat follows the standard
> for British Shorthairs! The Pathfinder cats were mixed litters of British
> Shorthairs and British Longhairs.
>
> Himalayans are Exotic Longhairs. Chocolate and lilacs are Exotic
> Longhairs.
>
> The cat we call a "Persian" is a breed well described in the 1800's and
> early 1900's as a deliberate hybridization between Turkish longhaired
> cats, Russian longhairs, Maine cats (in the US), and domestic shorthaired
> cats of Britain. How much longer must this myth about "pure Persians" go
> on? The are NOT a natural breed. They are the result of deliberate crosses
> of cats with completely unrelated heritage, artfully developed over 130
> years of selective breeding.
>
> --Lorraine
>
>
> --- In Persian-Fanciers@yahoogroups.com, "henrietan" <henrietan@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe my English is not good enough, but I dont understand what you mean?
>> I
>> meant to say that in FIFe it is possible to mix ELH to a Persian because
>> most of the members in FIFe does not make any difference between them in
>> their perigree numbers or in any other way.
>>
>> I'm sure you well understood me ;-)
>> ~~Arja
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "featherland2000" <Lorraine@...>
>> To: <Persian-Fanciers@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:05 AM
>> Subject: Fw: [PER] Re: throw away breed Exotic Long Hair prevented from
>> breeding to persi
>>
>>
>> >> Wrong. Fife does.
>> >
>> > I'll bite. What breed in FIFe is an exact mimic of another? I know the
>> > ELH
>> > is a Persian there. The Seychellois isn't an exact mimic. The only one
>> > I
>> > can come up with is the Foreign White. Is that what you were referring
>> > to?
>> >
>> > --Lorraine
>> >
>> >
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